Honest Money LIVE — Episode 002

Hey, what's up, everybody?

It's your boy, Gary Franchi, and you are watching Honest Money Live.

This is episode two, and I'm honored to be the special guest.

And I'm actually honored that you're joining us right now. uh this is something different you're not used to seeing me in this environment but uh today we're gonna have a casual conversation with bobby gray and he's gonna talk to us and he's gonna ask me questions we're gonna have a real real conversation just two guys you know talking about the revolution that we're living right now uh the the revolution we have been living for the last like twenty years and uh we're gonna talk about crypto and what it means and so much more maybe we'll get into some news headlines that we've been tracking today I don't know it's kind of an unscripted Journey through the world of the interwebs and uh just glad you're here so uh hit the share button comment you know do do all the things right you know the things and uh we'll get started so Bobby what's up man going on I think there I am I'm here I am in a very loud place right now.

I am crossing my fingers and hoping that our connection holds itself together for long enough for us to get through the content on today's program.

I'm really grateful that you were able to make time for us and fit this second episode into your schedule.

It's really important for us to have a conversation because you and I go all the way back to almost the very beginning of this story.

I mean, you were there when I was just making my very first coins in two thousand and eight with the American Open Currency Standard stuff.

So We're starting the show and the whole point of this show is to bring back the excitement and the enthusiasm that we had back in two thousand and eight, two thousand nine, two thousand ten in the early days of the revolution.

If you remember that one.

And so, you know, so it's it's really important for us to. make sure that people know that that this story began a very long time ago with some really great people that saw the problems that wanted to be a part of the solution and rolled up their sleeves and went to work so thanks so much for joining me thanks for being here thanks for inviting me to uh some words to the folks on your channel as well You know, the journey has been wild, man.

I mean, since we got into the media world, after we recognized what Ron Paul's message was, And it was like red pill after red pill, you know, and and working with Aaron Russo and his film, America, Freedom of Fascism and the fire that that kicked up really over the last twenty years has evolved so dramatically.

And it's wild to see where everybody has has landed since then.

Um, obviously, you know, I have a YouTube channel now with over two million followers.

Uh, you know, you've been doing your stuff with, uh, AOCS and Texit.

Uh, we were just at Ron Paul's ninetieth birthday together.

Uh, that was a, an amazing experience to celebrate Ron Paul turning ninety.

Uh, ninety.

Yeah.

That was a year ago.

That was ninety-one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he's still doing this thing, spreading peace and prosperity from one side of the world to the other.

I think he does a live like every day.

Well, when he went up on stage, uh, I mean, he, he must've spoke for like an hour and I'm like, this guy's still going.

And it was like, yeah, he went he went for a whole hour.

I thought maybe twenty minutes initially.

But no, he he went and I was it was important for me.

I was there with my family.

I brought my kids because I wanted them to see where it all started.

I wanted them to meet the man who inspired me, who helped wake me up to the currency problem that we have in this country, the Federal Reserve running amok.

And I just wanted them to see where it all started.

And the fact that my children got an opportunity to see that man speak is something that I will always cherish.

Absolutely for sure.

No, it's beautiful.

And, uh, you know, I was hoping that that event was going to be a catalyst to bring a lot of people back together.

Uh, I reached out to Ernie Hancock.

I said, come on, man, let's go.

Oh, I don't really do that stuff anymore.

It's all right.

Load up the RV and take a pilgrimage out there to see the goat.

You know, the guy that was instrumental in so many lives so many years ago.

And let me ask you a question.

He says, I don't do that stuff anymore.

What does that even mean?

I don't do that stuff.

What is that stuff?

Like, how do you find that?

A lot of us got really kind of frustrated with the political process when we saw what happened to Ron Paul in two thousand and eight and then again in two thousand and twelve.

And you see those things and you go, what are we doing?

You know, like you were were you there in D.C. for that march on Washington, D.C. in two thousand and eight?

Yeah, no, I actually I was I led the march and I spoke at the march with Ernie.

I was there.

I was there on the steps of the Capitol or in front of the Capitol.

Yeah.

I just went back the other day through some of those old pictures and the crowds were huge.

And if you remember, the news reported it as like a handful of protesters showed up in D.C. today.

And it was like a handful.

We're talking about like MLK level size.

There's tens of thousands of people, you know, holding, you know, honest money and respect.

Loveolution and the Fed signs.

You know, you mentioned about the frustration that we all had after twenty twelve and that, you know, my only solution to that, my only solution to that was media, because after doing the revolution pack and realizing like what legal that you have to jump through just to run a pack, just to run commercials, just to say something.

There was so much that you had to go through.

So many filings and like, you know, this is garbage.

And that's why I'm like...

After I saw what they did to Paul and what the GOP and the media did, I'm like, I'm just not going to let that happen again.

And that's why Next News Network was initially born, because I'm like, I'm going to find a candidate that I want to support.

And at the end of the day, it turned out to be Donald Trump, and we helped elect him.

And our channel received seventy million views in a month.

And then we got a target on our back because, you know, no good deed goes unpunished.

And we're still dealing with the fallout from that.

And I mean, the entire social media landscape shifted after twenty sixteen because of the effectiveness of our reporting.

Is it a great when they have to change the rules because it's something you personally did?

Yeah, I mean, I could point to it, you know, and it's wild.

But, you know, other things we can point to, you know, that moment when we were all at Circle Island together.

And when, you know, we were hanging out and we were in the actual room with G.

Edward Griffin.

Yeah.

And in the room where they conspired to take over the nation's currency.

Yeah.

Like we were there and it was like a reverse incantation, you know, like we're, we're, we're going to declare this land, you know, for the American people again.

Uh, but I think the most, the most wonderful moment, and I think you have some pictures was when, uh, you guys went up on the turret at Jekyll Island and you pulled down the pennant of Jekyll Island and you raised the Gadsden flag.

And that, and it, you know, it reminds me of like, You know, at the what was the Green Dragon Tavern, I think it was where the founders, Samuel Adams, where they were all saying, we're going to throw the throw the tea, you know, over into the heart.

Give me that.

Let's go.

And like, and, and so those guys are all like, you know, they're, they're reveling it up and they're raising their pint glasses and we're going to dress up like Indians and we're going to throw this into the, into the, into the Harbor.

Well, it's like, we were down in the, in the, in the bowels of Jekyll Island and this like cavernous. you know, it's like, it felt like it was just brick lined.

We're just, it was a very creepy kind of place, but we were just getting pretty sauced.

And then somebody had the idea, let's go pull the pennant down and raise the Gadsden.

And then we all woke up the next morning and there it was, the Gadsden raised over Jekyll Island.

So that happened because I was Michael Bednarik's plus one on that trip. and uh we got off tour bus like you remember we took that you know overnight train ride from new york city all the way down to japan and georgia retracing the footsteps of the men who traveled in secret under disguise and it was a hundred year anniversary of that happening so that was like this monumental thing and we rode down there with ed griffin you know the guy that wrote the book literally creature from jekyll island i remember getting off that tour bus and the first thing you see is this big you know picturesque resort where all this went down and i see their flag and i go i'm gonna steal that flag tonight and i did with uh with catherine gleisch and then it was like it was scary and it was fun and it could have only happened with the right amount of like uh like vodka brendel i guess was the drink back in the day but uh We took that flag down, and on the hundred-year anniversary of the creation of the Federal Reserve Act, the Gadsden flag flew... as the sun rose over jekyll island georgia and so you know that that's not exactly where all this started for me but uh but that was back in the early days of this stuff before we had you know provid before we had uh all the election stuff before most people knew about bitcoin and cryptocurrency like this is what we were doing back in the early days but you mentioned a few minutes ago uh american freedom of fascism can you walk me through real quick That origin story for you, I think that you had connected at one point with Aaron Russo.

That's where you and I started our journey together because I wanted to do screenings of this movie all over.

I'm like, do I need to get permission?

I should probably call Aaron.

And that's when I think we found out that he passed away.

Yeah, so it's interesting because in the town that I live now, um there's a theater it's called the arcada theater and back then i was living in chicago i was living in uh in wrigleyville and that's when i had my my little ragtag group of dvd burning uh friends and we would go and pass out dvds around chicago and i'd be on a bullhorn and i'd be waking up the people on state street and uh So somebody told me about this film.

I remember it was like a trucker.

This trucker had told me, you got to go out.

This guy, Aaron Russo, you know, he was Bette Midler's manager.

He made Trading Places, a big Hollywood producer guy.

He's got this new movie called Freedom to Fascism.

You should go and check it out at the Arcata Theater.

And so I went and I sat there in that theater and I was blown away because everything on that screen, that big silver screen in front of me, confirmed everything that people told me I was crazy for believing.

And I said, finally, finally, there's somebody who has a message that is palatable for the masses to, to, to, to take in.

Now, afterwards, I went to my, I went back to my high school and, And I asked my high school television teacher if I could use his production room as a backdrop.

And I filmed a review of what I saw.

And I inserted the trailer of the movie into it.

And then I put it out on, at the time it was called Google Video. and then i sent the video over to fred smart who was working with aaron at the time and then all of a sudden uh fred smart gets on the phone and aaron's on the phone and he's like this guy just did this thing you got to see this and holy cow and and before you knew it i was thrown into the middle of uh helping aaron and his wife heidi uh, streamline their DVD, uh, distribution on the backend.

Cause they had a website and it was clunky.

And so I helped them streamline that.

And then, um, and then of course we all knew that Aaron had cancer.

So there was a, there was a lot of like, Aaron actually came to one of my lone lantern meetings.

Like we have a little coffee shop that we can go and like do stuff.

And like, he showed up at this meeting.

Um, It was wild to be there.

There were so many different experiences.

We went to his hotel one night and we all prayed with him.

He told us a story about how He had made a he had just put a an addition or like he remodeled his bathroom and he was laying in this like marble slab in his shower and taking in this beautiful new bathroom that he rebuilt.

And he heard a voice say, get up, get up.

And as soon as he got up, he a piece of marble fell and would have killed him.

So, you know, there's these moments where, you know, Things happen for a reason.

And I think Aaron's film was certainly... uh for such a time as that as that moment needed and that film that film was about the federal income tax it wasn't about the federal reserve it wasn't about you know corruption it wasn't about inflation no it was it was about the it was about the irs the federal reserve the police state it was about those were the three main themes of the film and So when Russo ended up passing away, before he passed, he asked me to take over his mailing list, his websites, and then proceed with the mission.

So we took all that momentum.

We built RestoreTheRepublic.com.

We ended up doing more like media stuff, magazines, documentary films, trying to kind of stay in that vein that Russo was in with media.

Yeah.

And then, of course, when because Russo did endorse Paul in oh eight and the momentum from his film went into Paul.

And then after Russo passed and then Ron started up in twenty twelve is when we started that super pack.

So we went from grassroots to official organizing at that point.

And I remember when I told Alex Jones that I started a pack, I was on the phone with him.

He's like, Franchi.

You're you're in, you're in the Atlantic right now.

You're surrounded by sharks and the Titanic's bearing down on you.

I'm like, Oh boy, what did I just get involved with?

You know?

And, uh, yeah.

Yeah.

So, you know, it all started from, from, you know, that, that film and it just kept growing and growing and growing after and then we started the next news network and you know, the rest is history.

Right.

Um, I remember that film as being important for me because I'm in the process of transitioning out from like my young child young man days and I see this film and it's like my first glimpse of the possibility that government may not be entirely on my side you know it's like you go to public school you're taught all this stuff about you know how the government works and how a bill becomes law and you know there's songs that you get to sing um but you never stop to consider that they might not be on your team And, you know, the the income tax is one of those things that we all have to deal with.

And next thing you know, it's like, wait a minute, there might not be a law that requires a normal, ordinary American to like pay a federal income tax.

Like this is kind of an eye opening thing.

And it was really interesting for me because I called a mentor that I had, a very well-respected older guy, kind of like a second dad at the time.

And I mentioned it to him.

I'm like, hey, man, have you heard anything about this thing that the IRS might not be constitutional and we might not have to actually file a federal?

And he goes, it's wishful thinking.

And I hung up on him and I have never talked to him since that day. because this film for me was eyeopener.

And there are two types of people, the people that hear that stuff and they go, no, no, no, we're plugged into the matrix, man.

Take the blue pill.

Like just, just ignore all of that.

You don't want to go the opposite way.

Stay with the herd and, It's cold and lonely out there.

And like I knew that wasn't for me.

And that's a tough thing for everybody when they go through that aha moment.

You see something like that.

You see this information and it's right in your face.

And it's interesting.

I don't know if you ever saw that Yuri Bezmenov clip from like nineteen eighty three or nineteen eighty four.

Have you seen that one that I'm talking about?

He's actually getting interviewed by Ed Griffin.

I watched it for the first time long ago and I'm like, I feel like I know that voice.

That voice sounds, well, it's a young Ed Griffin from forty years ago. and so you know talk about people that have been doing this for a long time anyway he he talks in that interview about how you can put information in front of someone good crystal clear almost undisputable information and if you're too plugged into like the status quo you just you can't even hear it your your brain doesn't have the the the plumbing to accept that kind of information And so, you know, for me, I think about what I heard when I heard I was twenty seven and I was at a point in my life where I was I was open to receiving some sort of truth.

It was it was time for me to get something truthful in my life.

Just started a family.

I've got a couple of young kids trying to find my purpose and direction that I'm going to take in life.

And then I see this film and I'm like, oh, this is it.

This is it.

And it was great because you met so many other people and they're all young and we're all going through that same thing where we're looking for something to plug into.

And we see that film and we meet Ron Paul and we go, okay, the guy's old.

I don't know how much longer he's going to be here.

Apparently he's going to be here for quite a while.

But this guy is speaking to me using words that I need to hear right now in my life.

And, you know, I wonder if that's only something that really works well on young people.

You know, when people are going through that mid-twenties, you know, early thirties time in their life and they're like not kids anymore and they're realizing that they've got to start finding their own path in life.

You know, is that the moment when they're most receptive? and that's the reason that we're reaching out to people on x because that's where younger people are hanging out and they need truth they need the information that you have they need the things that you've been trying to communicate to people for a very very long time and so you know i never imagined having myself on x but here we are yeah you know it's there's something there was something about the way that ron paul would communicate that broke down some of the most complex ideas into understandable concepts.

You could actually comprehend them.

And it was wild because every time that Ron Paul would hit the podium or every time they gave him a chance to speak at a debate, it was just red pill, red pill, red pill, after red pill.

And those debates were just nuclear bombs of truth.

And just like in the film, when they bring up the idea of the IRS and the term voluntary compliance, right?

Or the book, I think it's Red Beckman's book, The Law That Never Was, you know.

And what's wild is, you know, I have a son who is...

He's fourteen now.

And he's starting to look through my library of books.

And I've got... know books on nine eleven i've got books on the federal reserve i've got books on the secret government i've got i have the the the dual volume set of the law that never was and i'm showing him these things and he's like you know what he's like i want to run for office he's like i want to change the world i i want to do something i'm like okay well here's a book Here's a book called How Washington Really Works.

Start here, and then once you learn how Washington really works, you can figure it out from there.

But it's wild because it was even a couple of years ago that my son, I think he was probably like, twelve, he comes home and he's like, Dad, have you ever heard of Bohemian Grove?

I'm like, what?

My son is asking about Bohemian Grove?

And I had to explain to him, I'm like, yes, your father does know about Bohemian Grove.

And he shows me this video of Alex Jones infiltrating Bohemian Grove.

And I'm like, oh, let me show you something.

I pull up a picture of me and Alex Jones or an interview of me and Alex.

And he's like, holy cow.

It starts to click for him.

But he's been doing it.

My dad knows about this stuff.

Yeah.

And but what I'm saying is like the young people have access to information that we didn't have at twelve and thirteen years old. you know and i didn't really start understanding the world until i was probably eighteen seventeen or eighteen years old but i i had to read books i had to go to the library i had to you know search the dewey decimal system to figure out you know the knowledge and now it's at the palm of your hand you can find out anything and i think that that is a reassuring um reality But equally as terrifying is the fact that the information is curated.

And unless you can get around the censorship machine, the censorship industrial complex, which we saw.

I mean, we saw what happened after after twenty sixteen and what they did with the algorithm and how they keep manipulating things and how Meta just got their hands slapped because of what they're doing on Instagram.

But the fact is, is the information is moving so much faster now and it's reaching people at an earlier age.

And that does give me hope.

And I think that once you have a message that can get out and a message can be heard, the world can be changed.

You think people are more receptive now to that message than we were back in two thousand seven?

Because back then, man, it was hard to find somebody that had like seen the movie and had like, you know, like the problem with that was the Internet with respect to even YouTube didn't even really come into play until May.

I think it was May of two thousand seven. youtube was born my first website was february of so i had been i had been downloading all these documentary films and i was hosting them on lonelantern.org right i was i was transmitting the um movies about the federal reserve and and the secret societies and all these things back in oh seven and then youtube comes around and it eventually grows so What has happened since then is the barrier for information has fallen dramatically.

We didn't have that kind of access.

So when you're talking about people who are hard to reach, it's because those people were still plugged into the matrix And they couldn't unplug because they're still watching mainstream media.

They're still watching CNN and Fox and MSNBC and those channels.

And that is their main primary source of information.

So the gatekeepers were continually programing.

Are we talking old people, young people, and are we talking in twenty twenty six?

Are we talking about the barrier back then was that we were combating the mainstream media's propaganda.

So it's harder to reach people.

So when we would burn DVDs and go in the streets of Chicago and pass out America, freedom to fascism and and loose change.

That was the only method that we could combat the propaganda machine was physically burning DVDs, passing them out hand to hand.

And that's how we bypassed the...

Because there wasn't...

There was no...

Um, like again, YouTube wasn't fully formed.

Google video at the time wasn't fully formed.

So the only way to do it was through hand-to-hand DVDs and, uh, and then slowly the message can, would, would permeate.

And then we were able to, you know, and then social media came into its, into its own where information could travel quicker.

But then once that information like the genie was out of the bottle, they couldn't do anything to it.

They couldn't keep it contained.

And that's why after after the Trump election, that's when everything changed in twenty sixteen.

Because in twenty sixteen, the algorithm for that election was completely wide open.

It was open.

It was organic.

It was real.

There was no manipulation of it.

So they were so terrified of what happened because Trump had won and because channels like mine were so influential in that moment that they had to change the way people absorbed information.

And that's when things started to change.

But I think despite the algorithmic manipulation, people are still receiving information quicker than... than they were able to before.

So it's easier to reach people now, but are they less receptive and open to that information or new ideas than they were ten years ago in twenty sixteen?

What do you think about that?

I think that people are more open to asking questions and finding out for themselves. rather than accepting the approved narratives that come from on high, because now you can open up your phone and, and, and enter a search into whatever search model or, or much now.

And, and it's crap and fake, you know?

So it's, I almost think like we're going to see, this swing towards more open communication, but less trust with that communication, because it's getting harder and harder to discern between, you know, real and generator.

Well, that's the reason we started this program, because we want people to know that we're here, we're real, and we're live.

So I don't know, maybe we can reach them now.

Are they listening?

Are they are they trusting?

Okay, so with the advent of AI and deep fake technology, Um, it's, I mean, it really is difficult to, to ascertain what's real and what's not.

I remember maybe it was probably about three, three years ago, somebody had posted an AI generated video of the Pentagon, um, a bombing at the Pentagon and it went viral.

Everyone thought it was real.

It turned out to be an AI hoax.

So it's moments like that, that really test our discernment.

Young people can tell when something's AI.

If I show my son something, he's like, oh, that's AI.

He can catch the tells real quick.

But that's the question.

Is it real understanding or is it just an assumption now that it's all fake?

I don't think it's an assumption it's all fake.

I think that it's there's a, um, a healthy discernment that is people are putting up in front of that before they accept it as real.

So they're testing that reality first before they accept it.

Okay.

I hope you're right, man.

I hope you're right.

Because I see this technology and instant access communication as a bit of a double-edged sword.

I mean, young people have access to it, but they have access to all of it.

And it's coming at them all day, every day, from every corner of the globe. and not all of it's good i mean you know you got anxiety with with kids now that's like off the charts and i'm like why what's going to be so stressed out about well it's because they have access to so much information now and it's every time they open their phone you know you're you're finding out about the war here and the famine there and the flooding there and the fire here and it's like man can i just get some good news is there any good news out there Speaking of good news, you said something just happened on two thirty these days that might be some good news.

Yeah, I'll be covering it later tonight.

I don't want to break the story if it's not time yet.

What's that?

I don't want to break the story if it's not time yet.

Well, no, what's encouraging is that let me just pull that up real quick here.

So.

Jason Fike, who's been fighting Facebook for years, made a post and Tim Pool just distilled it pretty well.

He says, holy shit, this is a nuclear bomb on two thirties.

Section two thirties does not grant immunity from suit.

Just a legal defense.

We are about to see waves of lawsuit hit social media and big tech.

So in a nutshell, yeah, after the meta ruling came down, it was the first time in like, thirty years that a judge ruled on the immunity element of two thirty before they're operating, essentially like the color of of law, like, oh, well, it's settled.

It's a bill.

It's settled.

It's written down here.

But there was never actually a case that cited and ruled in that fashion.

So That opens the door for individuals to to launch lawsuits against these social media companies for whatever reason they may have.

They can't like the social media companies can't just like, OK, we're going to court and then just smack down a lawsuit and say we have immunity.

We have immunity.

Right.

Diplomatic immunity.

You know, remember from Lethal Weapon, dude, you know, right.

And then what does Mel Gibson do to the diplomat at the end, right?

So they can't hold up that Section two thirty shield to protect them anymore from this immunity.

So it's a really interesting development that has just happened.

Not very many people have been talking about it.

I mean, we, I mean, speaking with Jason, when it came down, he was rather excited when I spoke with him.

Um, cause this is a, it's a big deal for his personal case.

Uh, but he just dropped this big bomb, um, four hours ago.

Yeah.

Are you seeing kind of a equal opportunity censorship and de-platforming across all the major social media networks or is it a better or worse in any particular place?

Well, I mean...

Like we're sitting here trying to get this X thing going and it's like, well, maybe we're barking up the wrong tree because X might be, you know, not a friendly place for this kind of conversation.

Well, I think that X is a friendly place.

I think of all the places, probably the friendliest.

You know, Elon Musk has his own plan for the platform.

You know, he's launched his own X money platform, which I thought was...

Pretty freaking genius.

Initially, the way that creator payouts were working on Hex, you'd get a payout and it would go to your bank, right?

That's it.

Well, now he's taking all that creator money and putting it into one bank. and then that bank is going to pay you six percent on top of whatever's in there like that's yeah i mean those kind of rates people are like what like six percent like you almost want to just throw the money into it uh and just let it grow and so i mean it's better than most bank accounts and most savings accounts like so but Yeah, and he's creating his own financial ecosystem inside X, which is pretty remarkable.

But that takes us to the bigger conversation when it comes to cryptocurrencies and how cryptocurrencies were essentially the solution to the Federal Reserve's fiat banking system. and you know but the fed and that's why the fed wants to step in and try to regulate all this stuff because they don't want to have someone you know with with all these mining computers doing essentially what the federal reserve printing presses are doing right imagine money that couldn't be inflated and created out of thin air what kind of financial system would that be But I think the Fed is actually really excited about stable coins because from what I'm seeing, it's forcing some of these big issuers to have to buy treasuries.

And so now you've got like the worst of both worlds come together.

If you're skeptical about cryptocurrency and you're skeptical about the dollar, well, now all of a sudden you've got both of those things in one delicious way. a disaster of a pie you've got uh you know these digital currencies that you can't hold on to you they're intangible they're you know created based on uh algorithmic uh rules some of which can be turned off remotely and that they're backed up by dollars and we all know how the dollar's done over the last hundred and thirteen years so I think that the banks uh saw crypto as a credible threat and hijacked that conversation the same way you and I saw, you know, the Ron Paul revolution getting hijacked.

Uh, and now they've, they don't just have a seat at the table, but they've like, they've taken over the whole entire party.

We kicked the DJ out, they're playing their own tune now.

And, uh, it's different from what it was originally supposed to be.

It was supposed to be, you know, money for the people and by the people.

And, uh, and it's totally not that anymore.

What do you think is a bigger, threat to the republic today would you say it's washington or silicon valley um you're in washington you've got uh you've got access that people can only dream is that right yeah i mean yeah i can go to the white house and i can report and i can i can be on the ground there at the seat of power but where is the seat of power like right now Like quite literally, the Oh, my camera is got a mind of its own is zooming in on me on these like, the atric close ups, like you're getting ready to say something really important.

So rapid response.

We're talking about the seat of power.

And you bring up a really interesting question.

I don't know if, if I'm able to show you if I'm able to do a screen share or anything like that.

But is there a way to do that?

There is.

There should be a button down there that says Presenter Invite, and then it'll give you a screen share option from there.

So if I click the button here, and then I want to do Share Screen.

Share Screen.

Okay.

Let's see.

Okay.

This is the screen.

So is it showing up?

There it is.

Okay.

So check this out.

You got it?

Look at this picture, okay?

This is what Donald Trump just posted on Truth Social, okay?

Now, let's see if we can...

NVIDIA, Meta, SpaceX, Google, Microsoft, NASA.

Wait, I'm going to try to get a better shot of this image or screen.

And... okay so okay so he posts this super intelligence luncheon this is the c he posts a seating chart in the east rome All right, look who's here.

Palantir, Social Capital, Susie Wiles, Greg Brockman, OpenAI, Secretary Lucknett.

Look who's sitting next to who.

Sataya Nadella, Microsoft, Bezos, Amazon, Vice President, Speaker Johnson, David Sachs, Craft Ventures, AMD, Treasury Secretary Palantir, Chairman Andrew Ferguson, Michael Kratios, Tom Brown of Anthropic, and then let's see if we can...

On the other side of the table, you've got Palo Alto Network, ServiceNow, NASA, Micron, Director Clayton, Sundar Pichai of Google, Elon Musk sitting next to President Trump, Jensen Huang of NVIDIA, Zuckerberg sitting next to him, Brad Garsteiner of Altimeter, Richard Walters, Broadcom, Anthropic, and Exeger and Scott Cooper.

I mean, so you asked me a question about, you know, where is the seat of power?

Is it Washington DC or is it in Silicon Valley?

Well, this seating chart shows us that it's right there.

They're all together right now.

You know what I'm saying?

Like it's, it's one in one hand and the other.

Um, no, I'm not saying.

Would you rather have government censorship or would you rather have algorithmic censorship? from Silicon Valley which which one's a little sort of two evils answer on that and that that answer is I would rather have government censorship because we have a constitution in place that allows us to have the first amendment but if you have corporate censorship it's a lot harder to fight against that because they can claim well it's my sandbox and you don't have to play in it Right.

I think that's exactly what happened.

I think that the government was like, well, all the media seems to be controlled by, you know, a couple of major companies now.

And we'll just give them the ability to make the rules.

And if they want to, you know, censor things, they want to deplatform, you know, different, you know, conversations.

And, you know, we turn a blind eye to it and we go, well, we're not we're not censoring things.

It's not us.

Well, the problem comes in like during covid. um when the government was putting pressure on the social media companies to censor americans so that that direct collusion was um i mean that was a direct violation of the first amendment and when elon bought x and revealed through the twitter files what those communications were and how the FBI was doing the bidding for Fauci and their whole crew.

And then when Sundar Pichai admitted to Jim Jordan that the Biden administration pressured them to censor people, that's dangerous.

I think we had a similar conversation between Zuck and Rogan about the same type of stuff.

You know, they're like coming clean and we keep hearing these things again and again and again.

And it's like, at what point are we looking for pitchforks and going, hold on, you guys are admitting this and this and this, and then there's that.

And then the other thing, and I don't even want to like mention what those things are.

And it's like, man, we just keep taking it and it's getting wilder and wilder.

And it's like, at some point something's got to change or break or snap or something.

Well, maybe this breaking the dam with the Section two thirty ruling is going to finally hold those corporations accountable.

I mean, as Tim Pool said in the post, he says that this is going to open up the floodgates for lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit to hit the social media companies.

And the only way that these companies are ever going to be held accountable is if these lawsuits proceed and justice is held out in the courts.

That's the only way.

I mean, we don't want to get to the pitchforks, right?

That's not our position.

We want to do things lawfully.

And I think that when you have a ruling like this in the meta case, again, it opens up the gates for accountability.

And that accountability, justice moves very slowly.

And there could be lots of cases, but a lot of those cases could be settled out or they could be settled with a judgment.

And that changes the entire structure of the corporate censorship machine on its face because they're getting punished over and over and over again.

Yeah.

So...

We can hope, we can cross our fingers and we can hope that there's some accountability and some rule of law.

I haven't seen that personally just yet in my dealings with the law and the things that I'm going through.

I don't know if it's been any different for you, but we can always work towards that kind of future.

What's next for you?

How do you continue to carry the torch with the challenges you're facing on your side?

Well, what's what's remarkable is how you answer the call.

And I should have brought this up at the beginning.

But, you know, last week we held a fundraiser because we're dealing with that very problem with the suppression of the views on our channel and algorithmic changes.

And like, hey, we're still producing the same content.

Nothing's changed on our end.

But suddenly the midterms are upon us and suddenly you don't want our content out there.

Okay, right.

So we put out this fundraiser, and we sent out emails and text messages, and ask people to, to contribute to, to this, to this fundraiser, we raised almost ten thousand dollars.

And then I get a message from you.

You're like, Hey, man, how can I help?

And I'm like, wow, you know, like, Thank you for stepping up and supporting The Next News Network and our efforts here by having me on your program.

I couldn't be more blessed to know that you're going to help us get through just another hurdle.

Another couple of days.

The hurdles keep coming. yeah no it's like after how many years suddenly you get a a rogue text message from me and it's like hey what's going on here franchi how can i help and you step right up to the plate and you know and so many other people have stepped up to the plate and that's what it comes down to is being a people-powered uh organization people-powered media Listen, I don't like to do fundraisers.

I try to do it literally last resort.

When things are really...

You got to do it.

That's when I do it.

So like what we do, I mean, with our YouTube revenue and our sponsor revenue, we just keep funding the work.

We just keep paying for the work.

And so we so we don't so we don't have to bother our viewership.

And with, you know, e-begging like I hate doing that.

But sometimes we just have to remind people.

Like, listen, like if we don't have your support in the terms of, you know, dollars and cents, then we can't keep going.

And a beautiful thing that happened, too, was once when we were initially demonetized February twenty fifth of twenty twenty three.

My wife says, go down into the studio and pray with your viewers, let them know what happened.

And I did that.

And we raised like one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in like forty eight hours.

I ended up on the front on a front page of Newsweek in tears.

You know, they're mocking me because next news cries because he's demonetized.

Well, you know, someone in the news is real and telling you the truth.

Yeah.

And let's make fun of them.

Newsweek, they're a big corporate group.

They got all the money.

They got all the writers.

They pay this guy to go write this hit job on me and make fun of me.

I'm not part of a big corporate group.

I'm not Real America's Voice.

I'm not One America News.

I'm not Newsmax.

I'm not Fox.

I'm Gary Franchi, Next News Network.

I've been doing this with my wife and Brian Roberts since twenty years ago.

And because our voices were so effective and are still effective, they're like, we got to shut this guy up.

So they do it in weird ways.

Either they try to demonetize you or they try to shadow ban you or they try to minimize your visibility.

But it's when people like yourself step up, other viewers step up, they remind me of just how powerful the grassroots really are.

And it's really easy.

What?

We've forgotten that.

We forgot that that's where all political power rests with the people.

And that's what we saw back in two thousand and eight.

And that's what I want to help bring back to life. that passion, that energy that can only exist in the heart of an individual.

That's got an incentive to get off the couch and participate.

And I don't know if you remember, but it was what?

Eighteen years ago in two thousand and eight.

It was like Thanksgiving Eve.

You put a press release out about Rob Gray and the American open currency standard kicking up, kicking off, picking up where the Liberty dollar left off. and starting this Silverback Community Currency thing.

And it's been a long journey for you.

It's been a long journey for me with lots of twists and turns.

If you and I had this conversation, eighteen years ago and predicted that we'd be here where we are today, with all the highs and all the lows, no way.

No, nice try.

But we're still here.

And there are lots of other people that are still here as well.

And it's like Ron Paul said last week when we talked, we just have to connect with one person, a remnant, an outsider.

Somebody that's disenfranchised needs to hear the right words at the right time, where the light bulb goes off in their head and goes, Oh, this, this is why my life is the way it is today.

And I have the ability to do something about it.

I can listen, I can learn, I can share, I can, I can pay attention, I can hand out a DVD on a street corner in my town, I can start a screening at a movie theater, I can do something today to wake up more people, to share the message of peace and prosperity, and to do my part for helping make the world a better place.

That's what happened for me. you and I connected.

We've seen lots of other connections like that happen.

Some of them have put in their time and have, you know, gone out the past year.

Others are still banging the drum like Ron Paul today, you know, all those years later.

And so I owe you a lot for what you did for me back in two thousand and eight.

I'm always going to be grateful for that.

And it's like I said last year at Ron Paul's birthday barbecue, like you know some people have done very well and this is our opportunity to fund the next chapters of freedom and liberty you know somebody did it twenty years ago when we were getting started now we're the adults now it's our job to light the fires and to put the capital that uh we've been blessed with to work to continue to carry that torch forward and uh and so that's what i'm you know grateful having the ability to do today um as we wrap up our hour sorry go ahead I think about the people that came before us.

I think about how young we were at Jekyll Island.

And we're there with Michael Bednarik. and and um ed griffin uh and bob shulls and you know those guys came before us you know yeah and they're the ones that had to fight in a different a different level you know maybe they were putting out cassette tapes and and they were putting out vhs tapes and they were putting out records you know and it's a trap pop it in while you're driving you know and like so When you have those guys, those are the people whose shoulders we stand upon.

And I'm almost fifty years old now.

Like, what the heck, man?

And I think about how old was Michael Bednarik? when we were at Jekyll Island.

How old was Bob Schultz at that time?

And I think generationally, we do have a responsibility.

And if we could patent, we have to just keep the torch passing along.

And learning is like what you said earlier.

We've got tools today to reach a thousand times further and faster than, I mean, look, they were passing out A-tracks.

You're passing out DVDs.

We've got the internet.

We've got access to everyone right now.

We've got access to the entire planet.

And what if they learned about honest money?

What if they learned about how important it is to have a free press?

These are the things that we have access to.

And that is what makes me excited.

That's why I got into this cryptocurrency scene in the first place, because I believe that we have a tool now with crypto.

Not all of them.

Some of them are very, very bad.

But, you know, we can do things with crypto that we can't do with gold and silver coins.

Like gold and silver are great.

I'm sure they worked well for thousands of years.

But let's use something today that can go from one end of the world to the other and get people excited once again about honest money.

And so we're living in a great time.

We've got the right message.

We've put in our time.

We've paid our dues.

And I want to bring on the next group as well.

You and I have to retire at some point and pass that torch along as well.

But I've got work to do still.

You've got work to do still.

There's more hearts and minds to be won over before we're able to check out and sail off into the sunset.

So what is this?

Are we giving something away here?

Continue watching.

We're going to give something away.

We are.

We're at the end of the program.

So this is only episode two.

So it's not like we can expect everybody watching to know what we do and how we do it.

But we do this proof of no edit thing.

We do this proof of giveaway thing.

And so with the last couple of minutes of today's program, we're going to disconnect in just a moment.

We're going to disconnect all of the different places that we're streaming.

I think this is streaming on Facebook, YouTube, and we're only going to continue streaming it on the Texas coin X page.

And if you connect with us on the Texas coin X page, we'll give away five hundred dollars on USDC in order to participate in the giveaway.

You've got to be tuned in on X page. on the Texacoin page.

And Maddie normally jumps in here.

Our producer, Maddie, why don't you jump in and tell us what the rules are so people know where they can go to participate with the five-dollar giveaway.

We have more people on this call than we had last week on the call when we did the first giveaway.

So tell us how it happens.

Yeah, so, yeah, continue watching.

You can go to Twitter, go to x.com slash TexItCoin, T-E-X-I-T-Coin.

And we're streaming live now.

You have to do this live with us right this moment.

And you have to follow TexItCoin on X. and dm us within one hour uh once we pick your name if you're the lucky winner of five hundred us start disconnecting so let's say thank you to everybody that tuned in from all the different channels out there that's what this program is all about we want this message to go out far and wide we figured out that live broadcasts get way more traction than pre-recorded things do This is the place for you to join us, to learn about honest money, to learn about our guests.

And our guests are being incredibly gracious and sharing this story on their channels as well.

But we're going to disconnect those channels now.

Join us on X.

And momentarily, we'll tell you.

Let me give a shout out to the folks watching on Next News right now.

Guys, I just pinned the comment. for the x channel uh texacoin so make sure you guys jump over because we are going to disconnect from the next news account right now and we're going to continue this so i don't want you guys to miss out all right here we go we're disconnecting so uh so yeah so like this giveaway uh is really cool because you can ask people to put in a particular comment and then stream yard the platform that we're using to share this message goes out there and does some sort of like scan rotation like wheel of fortune spin through the different people uh but we have to tell them what they got to do Now we are only streaming on X, and what you're going to type into the chat now is the word honest.

Honest is our giveaway word today.

So type honest right now live.

You can see the comments while they're popping up.

Everyone's typing in TXC.

Joke's on you, people.

This week we changed the code.

The code is HONEST this week.

We're going to give people, what, thirty seconds to pop it in there?

That's the word.

We haven't...

Dude, you need to have, like, Pee Wee Herman pop up and go, the word of the day is...

Right?

I found a whole bunch of, like, fun, festive things that I can do with my camera.

I know.

I'm very excited.

Here's my Pee Wee Herman...

Festive word of the day.

All right.

So we've given people enough time.

This is a giveaway for five hundred USDC.

Let me let me repost your stream.

Entries this week.

Text it.

If you want, we can watch.

We can watch a thirty second clip from last week while people are still joining.

Give us a thirty-second clip from last week.

I have no idea what you're going to play.

I hope it's awesome.

Okay.

You'll never know how many people you've influenced.

And, you know, you influenced ten people today.

And what are those ten people going to do?

And I consider them, in my mind, my definition of the remnant.

There's a remnant out there that know and honor the truth and love.

And you don't know how many there are.

It has been taught biblically that there's always a remnant that will maintain the truth.

I think the remnant is growing.

I just want to say I'm, I'm honored to be like the guy after Ron Paul, dude.

Like seriously, you picked me of all people.

Like that's an honor, dude.

I picked you because I've been a big fan of yours for a very long time.

Cause you helped me get my conversation started back in two thousand and eight.

And because we have, we've got to, we've got to establish the platform for, the foundation for this program.

We want great guests to come on here.

Maybe you know somebody wants to join us in the program as well.

But they have to know that this is a conversation we didn't jump into last week to make a quick buck.

This is not a money grab.

This is not us showing up at the crypto conversation or in the media conversation trying to extract value from our community.

This is a conversation that started twenty years ago for you.

It started nineteen years ago for me.

I've kicked off the American Open Currency Standard on Thanksgiving Eve, two thousand and eight with your help.

And when people you cannot buy authenticity It can only be earned through time and perseverance and just doing the same thing over and over and over again.

How did Ron Paul get to be Ron Paul?

Because he's been doing it for forty years.

I envy that.

I remember sitting at my desk in Northbrook And I had my monitor on my screen and I remember seeing the press release and putting it into my AWeber account and blasting it out.

I mean, I remember it very clearly, talking with you, organizing that.

And then you came out to my house when I was living in Northbrook and we hung out and you saw everything we were putting together.

We went to a little restaurant.

It's no longer there.

I think we got some Italian beef and some cheese fries.

And we had a good conversation.

And we got to know each other then.

We thought we knew it all.

What's that?

We thought we knew it all.

And we thought we had it all figured out.

And none of the things that I was working on back then have...

Progress very far from that moment, but we knew we, that we found a thread.

We found a thread in that thread.

Yeah, it's, it's made my adult life's work and same for you.

And here we are.

Eighteen years later.

Thanks man.

Thanks for joining me on the second episode.

Maddie tell us who's going to win the five hundred USDC.

I remember you got to send us a message on X.

In the next.

Sixty minutes to take advantage of congratulations.

Tom Parker never heard of a Tom marketer, but he sounds like a great guy.

Um, Thanks, man.

Thanks again.

We're over our scheduled hour, but I really appreciate you being here.

I really appreciate you helping me to get this show kicked off.

And we've got more talking to do because you've got a big community out there and we want to reach them week in, week out.

So let's figure out how we can make that happen and continue to be a supporter of your program. and if you're out there if you're part of the remnant if you're an outsider if you're disenfranchised don't lose hope because the future is bright but we have to roll up our sleeves and make that happen i'm bobby gray i was rob gray for a long time uh but i'm still here i'm still working hard uh to bring about that bright future as is my very good friend gary thanks so much Bobby, thank you for having me.

And, you know, it's like you got to start somewhere.

And, you know, we're in your corner.

We've always been in your corner.

And I'm just grateful to be your second guest on this podcast.

And I'm excited to see where it goes next.

Well, let's take it there.

All right, Matty, take us away.